Child Support CARD ???

by Rob
(TN.)

Is there any way we as child support payers can some how speak with law officials about this idea? The idea would involve a card something like a credit card in which we pay our child support to an account which keeps this money to be used by this card only. This card would allow us as payers to get a monthly itemized statement of where the child support is being spent. Why has this not happened? I feel that the custodial parent recieving this support should be accountable for how this money is spent by documentation.


This would keep them from being totally irresponsible with this money. This could be used in the courts against them if need be. I am a smart man and I KNOW FOR A FACT, no documentation, that my ex spends my childrens 481.00 per wk. support recklessly. My children are constantly telling me how their mom goes to the mall all the time buying clothes for herself, buying flat screen tv's, going out to eat at high dollar restaraunts, how all they eat is steak,shrimp, and chicken. Not to mention a new car and a partial remodel of her home. I know this woman and she wants the attention and wine life. So I guess she can afford all this making 17.00 hr.???? Where is she getting the funds for this???? ME ME ME. I need your help in Tennessee. How can we get this CARD. We are entitled to know where our CHILD support is being spent. Not EX-WIFE support!!!

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by: Anonymous

It sounds to me like some people are making statements out of hostility . There is no reason that anyone should not be able to access their money spent regardless of how it is spent just like a checking account. There are a lot of times that parents have to spend their money saved for their children so the money on the card may not be used for what its supposed to. I do understand that some people do abuse the card but not all and that needs to be understood. If someone has to pay support then they need to pay it, it does not matter and if they are not ready to do so then maybe they should consider not bringing a child into the world. Its called responsibility, own up to it. Simple as that. I have payed support and I gladly accept paying it and it does not matter how its spent, knowing my children have a roof over their head and food in their bellies and clean clothes is enough for me. Why should it matter if they need an itemized statement or not, let them have one. Many non- custodial parents need to just grow up and take responsibilty and quit complaining about questions people post. People are allowed to post whatever it is they want.

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TN
by: Anonymous

first of all. if you are so concerned about how the child support money is being spent then that is all on you. some women granted do do some bad things with the CS money, but non-custodial parents(which is 99% the fathers) keep it in your pants. since you are the ones paying CS then you dont have the child with you 24/7. kids outgrow their clothes faster than what you have to groom your dogs, kids eat more everyday than how many times you men have to fill up your cars to go find the nxt hole to shove your stick in, and yes the CUSTODIAL parents have to use the CS money to pay for rent so that they can have a roof over their heads or put gas in their cars to make it back and forth to work so that they can feed their kids. you have to add in daycare, toys, medical, dental, vision, athletics, and other stuff that kids do. instead of finding the next girl to lie to and get knocked up thinking shes going to take care of you and when she figures out all of your lies and leaves then you are stuck paying for what you did. dont forget the custodial parent doesnt get to take sick leave and go out and party or just get up and leave, that custodial parent(which is the mother) is doing the job of 2parents then has to deal with pyshcological damages to the child of wondering if they are the reason why their parents didnt stay together. so NO you cant have receipts of what the CS is being spent on cause you decide that all of a sudden you want to grow up and be a man when its too late

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Now wait a minute...
by: Anonymous

Lets say with this system you (the non-custodial parent) can track the spending for the child. Imagine this first. I've been paying for my son's support on my own for months now because his father has one excuse after another for not paying. So, I'm over $2000 out of pocket. Let me also add I'm a SAHM and my husband's pay has been supporting my son with no money from my ex.

So, now lets say I'm now given a card to have access to my Child Support money. Well, I've been out of pocket for months... right? So, if I use the money from this debit card on very obvious things NOT related to the child (ie tampons, cooking lessons, etc.). So now, my ex will have cause to do what? Take me to court!!? When this money should technically by mine free and clear. Right? Actually, lets take it one step further, lets say I just transfer it to my husband because HE'S been paying to take care of my son.

Do you see why having a trackable system can not always work? Can we turn the table? What if I insist that the father (non-custodial parent) PROVE with RECEIPTS that he spends the EXACT same amount in his household on our son. If you would force ME to prove the spending goes to the child, then HE should have to prove the same... Right?

Lastly, lets not forget this. The Custodial parent pays into support everyday just by paying the bills (water, sewer, taxes, mortgage/rent, food, power, gas, etc). Child Support is not forced to be tracked because you can't in a clear cut method. Sadly, some parents don't use it wisely. BUT, you can't force tracking because it's not possible. An non-custodial parent cannot judge what the custodial parent does with the money. If you genuinely have a concern, bring it to court and deal with it legally.


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This is why
by: Anonymous

The system knows the mothers don't use the money on the children & as a matter of fact the states don't care.
If they cared about the children the Attorney General offices of each state would prosecute and turn over custody when either parent refuses to act in the best interest of the child. Using the kids to 'get even' because of the failed relationship shouldn't be allowed.
There should be a attorney for the child in high conflict cases(payable by the party that refuses to cooperate to the best of their ability).
It's just a sad shame the 50% of the children today have their well-being resting upon the control of a greedy government that also uses these children for it's own personal gain.
The AG's should be charge with extortion for making interest off these children and for neglecting children's primary need - BOTH PARENT'S LOVE, PRESENCE, & SUPPORT.

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NY state
by: Anonymous

New york state has a card, but I call it the be anywhere card. Its a debt card with the money on it. Visa/master card... Dont forget to take it with you. If we all really knew what the money was being used for I think there would be hell in the court systems. Think about it if you found out that the ex you have kids with was using your child support money for supporting a boyfriend or just pulling the money off the card at an atm.What would you do? I live the life where toilet paper is a blessing, I have three children with my husband and he has 2 children that he pays support for. We stuggle everyday and the court system and the childrens mother lives high on the hills. I feel bad for the future wifes of CS payers and the payer themself. Im sorry that we live in a world that sucks A$$ when it comes to fathers and the support system. I think that all money for the child support should be placed in a fund that allows the child to go to college or start life of that the money should be used on a need to use it for certin reasons like School clothes or part of a bill( rent, elect, or gas) The child should be given 10$ a week of it to spend on what ever. I wish i could fix the laws for this but Its already got you dads bend JUST WHERE THEY WANT YOU!!! THE BOTTOM- Remember you cant make mistakes YOU(DADS) have to be PERFECT!!!! Good luck to you all!!!

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by: Anonymous

I totally agree! I am one of the few women in this country that probably does. My first husband was ordered to pay $500 a month for one child in 1988, thats a lot for back then, and his ex- girlfriend didn't even have any money coming in at all. She received SSI because of a disabled husband that she hadn't even lived with for years. She received food stamps, medicaid, section 8 and anything else she could get. My ex was military so there was not a need for her to get these benefits for her daughter but she did anyway. In addition, she lived with a boyfriend that did not work so the two of them were living off of the child support and the SSI money. I thought that it was unfair even then for her not to have to account for the money that she received. Now my current husband is in a similar situation, 2 years ago the state of Florida started automatically taking the money out of his pay each month, even though he was not behind. In Feb of 2009 the state sent an order to his employer with an adjustment to the amount raising the support by $144 a month. This is not court ordered they just did it by mistake. We have been fighting with them about this now for months and everytime the account shows a credit they just keep sending it to his ex. They owe us almost $1300 that he has overpaid, and we are going to make a trip there next week to try to fix it in person. I think that it is horrible how they can owe you and you really have very little resources to help but if you owe them they can take your taxes(that may not even belong to you), your bank accounts, driverlisence, and even put you in jail. I think that this one sided system needs major reform and who ever in the situation is in the wrong should get punished equally.

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An Excellent Idea
by: Great Idea

This is a great idea that already has infrastructure in place in several places. In NY, they have it that the custodial parent can receive the money via a Debit card, but they can go to a cash machine and take the entire amount out to do as they please.

I think it would be a great way to ensure that child support is going to where it is supposed to go: to the CHILD'S NEEDS!

But with that said, I'll give you several reasons why proponents of the current system will fight this tooth and nail:

1) Support goes towards upkeep of the home
2) Not all services and goods are payable via card (debit or credit).
3) There is nothing wrong with the current system. It is effective, and the child is receiving the necessary support through the custodial parent.
4) This would incur a cost to implement such a system (which is technically in place almost everywhere.....just need to change the applicable rules and issue the cards).

The day this could be done would be a great one for all who pay support so that we can see EXACTLY where the money is going.

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