Child Support Nightmare

by Unable 2 Survive
(Dallas Tx)

I have always paid child support never been late or missed a payment and the only time I was considered in arrears was due to waiting on the court to setup a hearing date for the reading of paternity results. That amount have already been paid off. I had a previous temporary assignment this appointment could be terminated at any time if your services are no longer needed or the funds are not available. Due to the nature of this assignment it limits the aggregate time of employment to a total of four years and my assignment expired in 2009 I was laid off last year.

The job required us to work enormous amount of overtime 6-7 days a week working 20 to 30 days without a off day. I informed child support of my new employere they sent the employer a Order/Notice to Withhold Income for Child Support Administrative Writ of Witholding in the amount of $440.00 per month back in 2005. Child Support reduced my monthly payments in 2009 from $440.00 to $380.00. The assignment ended last year I was laid off but I recently was ordered to go to court and at the hearing child support stated there had never been a modification done on me and based on the income from that previous job they are requesting I now pay over $1,000.00 a month.

I informed child support about all the overtime that was required to work. They determined my income had increased and the decision was based on that overtime. At the hearing Child Support agent asked if I handed or gave the custodial parent more money or bought things for her house and stated as such when daddy makes more money the mother gets more money. Now I pick my son up every other weekend if we went shopping and something was purchased he took it home with him and I would give him money to spend but not to the mother. I informed child support agent I paid the amount that child support sent to the employer to withhold.

Now I'm currently still laid off and receiving Unemployment Benefits but child support is still receiving the same amount $380.00 a month I was paying before I was laid off. In my search for work I signed up with several staffing agencies. I swore under oath that I was still unemployed at the hearing but one of the staffing agencies received the Order/Notice to Withhold Income for Child Support but they had not hired me or found a assignment to work.

I received a letter from Child Support stating" Your employer has been sent an Order/Notice to Withhold Income for Child Support and If you change jobs in the future you are required to provide a copy of the Order/Notice to Withhold Income to your new employer. I contacted my Child Support Office informed them that I was not employed yet as I stated less than 2 weeks ago while at their court hearing. I also informed the child support agent I wanted to contest or write a letter to appeal the modification amount because I'm unemployed no longer employed at the previous job. The child support agent stated I could not do either I would have to hire a attorney. I cannot afford an attorney and struggling to pay bills with my unemployment benefits.

The only thing that is going to come of this is my ability to do things with and for me and my son who I intend of having him to move in with me in a couple of years. I feel that because child support had never done any modifications with the exception of decreasing it back in 2009 they failed to do their job and wanting me to pay for it. I have read through all of my documents and I have yet to read in the event I work overtime I'm required to hand money over to the custodial parent. Is this fair? I got a letter from child support stating Notice of Intent to report I'm in arrears in child support due to all of this and if this is reported it could prevent me from being hired back with previous job.

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Women don't always win, its who u know too
by: KIM

My ex made a fake school calendar which he had his attorney file in court, I received this same calendar with a court order that I was only allowd to have my girls on the last day of school. Well you know I just waited for that day. I picked up my girls & went home. 20 minutes later the sheriff was at my door w an order for contempt but had a different school calendar attached to the contempt order. I was set up a yr prior to this. I spent 13 months in jail fighting this upon which I had my vertibrea shattered by the jail warden. When I got out I caouldn't even walk anymore w/out assi. I got on SSI and my ex still had to take me back for the child support owed from when I was in jail. I was ordered to pay $30. a month for the next 55 yrs.. Yes 55 yrs. to pay off over $17,000.00 for 1 yr of back child support even though I am on SSI. I am A woman who was doing very well in life, had a farm, had a store, had a restaurant and a campground while raising my girls, all on my own. My ex found out about it & decided he was going for custody & I can pay him child support. He kidnapped my girls, could afford good lying attorneys and even the hearing officer wasn't legal as she must be an attorney to be a hearing officer. The whole county can be reopened on every child custody case in the county do to this.
Talk about being royally screwed, I was. I never had a hearing. I never even got visitation. For 10 yrs I didn't see my girls and for what to this day they can tell me what i did wrong to lose custody in the 1st place. My girls were spoiled, they had money on them of at least 50 bucks or more. They earned it all from helping out with the businesses. They never missed school, they never spent ever a night w a sitter. I loved my girls. Funny, the amount of child support they ordered equaled the amount of allimony he had to pay me from the beginning. Here I am today, on my birthday w/out my girls, 12 yrs later as my girls live where they grew up w their friends, I see them once a yr, that's all I can afford to travel that far. And I'm still paying arrears even though it is against the law to take my SSI and if I don't pay they can arrest me. I can never leave the country nor have have a good credit report to ever afford a home. Now u can say the system sucks ! mamagopher3

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Just pay your child support deadbeats!
by: Anonymous

Awww poor deadbeat daddies, don't want to help pay for the children they helped create. Boo hoo! Come on guys and ladies sticking up for these deadbeats. Children cost money. Some "dads" dont want to pay for their kids,let alone see them. Most mothers arent asking for the world just something to help pay for daycare while we work. I couldn't pay my ex to visit with our son, he has yet to buy him any birthday presents or even send a birthday card. He likes to blame the fact that he doesnt make much but fact is he doesnt have bills either.. lives with his mom, she buys all the food and he has no bills. I only have the one child and his support is only $230. So all you crying deadbeats out there...just pay your d*mn child support.

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Women always win and also the state
by: Anonymous

You must remember.If you are a man and have children you will end up in the poor house or on the street or jail.That is the American way.Divorce will kill you.When I lost my job and was making nothing. The state said ok then we will put you down as making $12000.00 per year( thats there minimum).That went on until I retired.Then my support from state stopped but social security picked it back up and now I'm paying more support plus the X-wife gets a check for almost $700.00per month.You have to remember in todays world the wife always wins and so does the the state and feds.The New Order.YOU LOSE.Just go with the flow until your kids or eighteen or out of college.At least you live in a free country.Well maybe not all free.

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Finally
by: Anonymous

I have been dealing with the same excact things you people are talking about for the last four years. Now shes and I are both remarried with other children. And im paying child support @ 305 a month. So now she is got money and a well paid husband they are trying to adopt my son away from me this is the worst I have ever felt and nothing i can do because of our great gov. like said before the mother usually runs away with the farm.

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Could have Been Prevented
by: Anonymous

You should have reported your overtime while you were receiving it. That way a modification could have been done. If you look at all the child support orders you get, it will tell you that you are to report changes in your employment. This is why.

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EXPERIMENT,
by: Anonymous

Is like that saying, The Gov puts an innocent person in Jail or in Prison for a Crime that they NEVER had done nor DID, Just to see the OUTCOME of that Person?

Now we all know, Is NOT a good OUTCOME....etc

So, that's what the GOV is doing to US right now .... MEN'S, WOMEN'S ..... to all OF US !!!

Their USING and DOING the same thang/Experiment/Snow Balling Samplimg on us ......... The Same Way.....LIKE

We're CRIMINALS!!!!

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This is a joke
by: Anonymous

Do you work? Maybe you could work and help your husband.

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Child Support = Robbery
by: Disappointed Father

My husband is currently paying child support and has NEVER missed a payment. The mother has recently asked for his paychecks stubs to collect on his overtime. Now he already pays her $225 a week for one child and now she wants 20 percent of his overtime. He has another son from another mother (whom he has sole custody of) and does not receive a dime from his mother. He needs to work his overtime just to stay above water so that we do not get behind in our own bills because he pays so much child support already. The mother receiving the child support also receives child support ($1000 a month) from her other kids father. So you do the math $900 + $1000= $1900 dollars a month for sitting on your butt makng babies while these hard working fathers get robbed. YES, people make mistakes and fathers need to take care of their children that they helped make, but what about the mothers? Shouldn't they be held responsible for their child they made as well? Laying on your back and making babies does not really qualify as a fulltime job to support your children. Fathers are not treated fair in court. While she is robbing my husband and taking him for every dime he has, he cannot get a dime from the other deadbeat mother to help support his other son. There is just too many similar case out here for nothing to be done about it.

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Ignoring Injustice...Something we've always been good at
by: Laughing Knight

"Child" support laws will ruin this country. First of all, the government cannot force a man to marry into the system, so we will see far fewer marriages in the future. Secondly, just like slavery was in its time, "child" support enforcement is deeply engrained in our society, although there is something fundamentally wrong about it that everyone chooses to ignore.

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Ex wife is laughing all the way to the bank....
by: Anonymous

A friend of mine's ex wife went to another state to get this great job. She kept telling him she was coming back instead she established residency there, divorced him and married the guy she was actually in New York for. A guy, he later found out she had met online.
He was mailing her support checks when she went to court and said he made an enourmous amount of money and he owed 32,000 in arrears. She lied in court. He has been trying to fight it for years. Court dates keep getting continued and continued. He is doing all this from another state and he is being screwed. He has paid her so much in child support that she probably owes him money. Child support has added interest because they can only take 65% of his check, and it didn't satisfy the judgement, and now his arrears are up to 81,000. He finally got his modification done this year and they now say it is too late. Three years have passed so he can no longer argue the arrears. His ex has never shown up in court and that is why date kept being continued. He always had to do telethonic court dates and they kept being continued. Nothing is happening to her for not showing up but he got screwed. This is so wrong. He has been giving her everything he makes for 7 years and now the courts say it is too late look at arrears. His ex must be laughing all the way to the bank. It is making New York child support look like fools.
He has been paying everything to her and he will be paying child support until the day he died because ex lied.
He even went and hired an attorney who, turned around and screwed him as well. She did nothing about the arrears, this was over a year and a half ago. I have never seen such a joke system in my life. He was paying for kids who were not even living with their mother, but because they were under 21 he still had to pay.... He was not only screwed over once by ex wife, but twice and several times by New York.....Does anyone have any ideas

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Act Now
by: Anonymous

Good luck with that! The problem is...just that its not a big enough problem to affect everybody if it were say healthcare thats different. We have a voice people stop being hurded off to slaughter thats what are gov truly wants...under my thumb!!! Follow Me.

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BS CS laws
by: Anonymous

Please work on a review because the child support laws are BS.

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Cap on Child Support Amount
by: Anonymous

My husband's ex-girlfriend got tired of him, decided to leave and moved to another State with their son. My husband had to fight for a year for visitation rights and during that time he has been sending money to support his son. Now he got an order for him to appear at his hometown court for court order child support. He is afraid that he might end up not having enough money left over to live. I know that it is a parent's responsibility to take care of their child, but why leave the payor pennyless and cut into their quality of life. Right now he does not know how can he go about visiting his son when he has to pay for the trip, lodging and food. I really think child support laws needs to be changed leaving enough money for the payor to have a decent living. Right now PA law has it that they are allowed to take money and leave as little as $867 a month. How can someone survive on this amount between paying for an apartment, food, gas, groceries, clothing and utilities. They leave payor to be on poverty level. They need to restructure the amounts. On the other hand you have the recipient enjoying the high life with the extra money that is not being used for child support.

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Look for the hidden fraud
by: Anonymous

This may help.
1. Try to obtain a copy of the form used by the applicant for child support services. Review it and see if there are any inconsistencies in what the mother may have submitted. If you have check stubs, etc that will prove you made payments that she didn't report, it is called fraud, punishable by fine and/or imprisonment by most state laws and will be stated as such on the original application form. Look for any form she may have submitted that had to be notified. Then politely show the other party just what they might be facing should you decide to bring that to the attention of the State.
2. File a Request for Administrative Review and in the meantime, draft a horribly complex set of Interrogatories/Request for Production of Documents and send it certified mail/return receipt requested to her and remind her she has 30 days to comply. Prepare a Motion to Compel.File all with your docket.
3. Legally obtain all documents she may have submitted to look for that hidden fraud.

Be persistent! Read the statutes and engage the Director of Human Services/Attorney General if you are within the law.

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Child Support
by: Anonymous

I understand everything that everyone has said on here about the child support laws and the Department of Human Services. I am getting screwed by my ex-wife and the Mississippi Government. I was paying child support for my son religiously for almost two years and then his mother decides to disappear and not tell me anything. She called me twice in 15 years and that was when she was in between men and then the phone numbers or addresses she gave me would turn out to be false numbers and addresses. I had to finally find her parents to get a working number for her so that I could get to see my son. I am having my wages garnished but just received a letter stating that I have a court date for bac child support. It sucks when you are doing what you are supposed to do and then made to look like a criminal just because another person is selfish.

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Fucked up Child Support Laws.
by: Lance

Man we should start a damn movement for mens rights on the cool. I am being fucked over just like you are.I was laid off June of 2009. I requested my support payments to be re-evaluated in August. It is now May of 2010 and it still hasn't been adjusted. I paid her $400 a month while on unemployment leaving me with barely enough money to pay most of my bills. Couldn't even pay all of my bills. Three years ago when I got divorced I was averaging $8,000 a month before taxes and all that. I was working days off and alot of hours because me and my ex just bought a house and needed extra money for just in-case something with the house went wrong or any emergency. So i was ordered to pay $1170 a month. Well I havent made that much since then. I have paid well over $30,000 the last three years in child support. I was laid off for eight months and was still paying my wife $400 a month, but since I paid it directly to her and have proof of it with check stubs it still doesnt count and in eight months I was slapped with being over $15,000 behind on my child support. Now that I am back working I dont even make half of what I did. Meaning my child support should be cut in half, but no. It went up to $1,404 a month because they added in the amount of back support. So now instead of paying $585 every two weeks im paying $702 every two weeks. The AG people can drag their feet all they want on that shit instead of doing it within a week or two like it should be done. Making it where you have this huge ass fine and amount of money to pay when you shouldnt have to owe anything. If I dragged my feet like that at my job you can bet your ass I would be fired from that job. These people are ruining other peoples lives doing this and it isn't right. A women can go cheat on their husband, get a divorce, get the child, and get a check out of the deal. Then turn around and get re-married and do the whole thing again and get another check out of the deal and that is ok? What kind of example is that woman going to make. What kind of morals is she going to teach her child? They need to re-think their little child support process. It is not fair by a long shot. Why does the person who basically ruins the marriage get the child? They need to look at who would be the better parent instead of automatically giving the child to the mother. How is a man supposed to make a living for himself and be able to provide for his son when it's his turn to have him, especially in the summer when you get him for almost the whole summer when you have to pay an assload of child support. You shouldn't have to pay child support when you have your child for a certain period of time. It's not my fault I worked my ass off to get where I am at in my career with the company I work for to make a decent living for myself. Now I live with my parents again at the age of 31 because I can't afford to live on my own.

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Ditto for the Nightmare
by: Anonymous

I feel for u I am helping my boyfriend of seven years with his child support case and I have found a lot of information from just his case alone that the child support agencies are not following court orders and neither are the custodial parents but the non custodial parent that is trying continues to be made out like a criminal by the child support agency believing the mothers side for the most part I have noticed also that the fathers are always made to be the non custodial parent and sometimes it's not by choice it's because the courts favor the mother, that is ssssoooooo wrong. I am working on a petition for a review of the child support laws, and how the cases are handles.

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