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New York State and its rediculous child support enforcement laws

by Snellby@hotmail.com
(Florida)

I'm a father of a 17 year old daughter.
I have been paying support for my supposed child for 17 years.
At the beginning her mother was ordered to get a paternity test done and never did and i never pushed the issue, I accepted the child as mine and didn't look back, my mistake!
Recently I moved to another state because I lost my job,
I make half of what i used to so i filed to have my support reduced to compensate.
My daughter got Pregnant at 15 years old (unknowing to me)because they tried to keep it a big secret,so she had the baby and she's a great granddaughter.
My 17 year old daughter is now a mother and was asked to leave her mothers house because the support was reduced, so she came to live with me and my wife.
We got her going to classes to get her GED and had her a slot saved for her for nursing school after she passed her GED test.
My daughter decided to quit going and left my house and returned to New York to live with her mother,I found out a few days later why.
She got pregnant AGAIN before she moved in with us and didn't want me to know.
So she will have a second child before she turns 18.
She has taken on the responsisibility and actions of an adult and nothing i can do or say about it.
New York State says i have to pay support to her mother till she's 21 or living on her own or working full time or married.
WHY? She's not going to finish school, or get married or get a full time job because her mother promotes her actions and encourages it because she has 8 kids by 7 different fathers.
My daughter said to me her mother tells her "Men are good for 2 things, Sex and Money and you won't have to work if you get enough child support.
Why should I have to continue support payments if i have no contact anymore with my child or her mother.
She obviously is a 2 time mother and in my reality makes her an adult by default.
So Why am I supposed to take care of an adult when she has no reguard for her own actions or for her childrens welfare?
I just don't understand the logic behind New Yorks overbearing support laws, I feel so much animosity toward that state for the unfair laws, because i know if the role was reversed and her mother had to pay they would drop it.
Something needs to change because I shouldn't have to be responsible for her Past 18 if she decides to become a parent not only once but twice now!
I need help and legal advise!

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New York State and its rediculous child support enforcement laws

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NYS Bill S4547-2011
by: CG

Call your elected officials and support legislation sponsored by Senator Kenneth LaValle.

S4547-2011: Requires reduction of a parent's child support obligation by the amount of social security dependent benefits received by the child.

http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S4547-2011

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Bill in Legislation to reduce child support obligation by the amount of social security benefits received by the child
by: MJ

Please support this bill in the Legislation bill #4547-2011, Please read and send you support for this bill.. MJ

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The Court(s) System!?! - They don't Care!!!.
by: smrfr

The Court(s) System!?! - They don't Care!!!.
About you and You or You nor You.

Is or It's all about money....$$$$$$$$....and that's all.

They don't care if you are working - The Male or Female, Or on HOW? did you get that-(i.e.) Money!?!

THAT'S THE MAIN QUESTION to tell a parent(s) on how or where did the Money came or comes from? - when WE or YOUSE are Unemployed with no benefits nor welfare, But do they care? HELL NO!! is all ABOUT THAT FUCKING MONEY.

You can have your "Only Child" ...... LOL!!!
that you're supposed to be supporting and have them working in the street(s) corner(s) and they still want that money.

The or These socal family court(s) - They don't even come to your House nor Home!!...That's the part - that hurts me.......Man!!

They DON'T GO TO THESE HOUSE(S), But they want that money. because of thier safety comes first.
Not your Child(s) just thier own.

Just like the LANDLORD - He nor She comes to NO one House's nor Home, only the Super or the Copys.
But they'll want that money.

Understand on what I've had wrote....If you don't like it?

Then good luck.

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I have Split custody and i still pay
by: Anonymous

I still have not been able to figure out this one. I have joint physical custody of my daughter, this means the child spends the same amount of time in my house as she does in my ex's house. I am still ordered to pay child support to her, not only that I have to provide medical insurance. The reason being is because my ex doesn't work, she gets supported by her new boyfriend and me. If she would get a job my support would go down, but she refuses. She is playing the system right in front of these judges and they are still making me pay out the ass for child support. I can't get over this, I literally have to support my child in 2 homes. Why can't a jugde just give me primary custody and my daughter can go visit this worthless pile of crap! So now my new wife has to work extra hours to make up the money that my ex takes from me. what is wrong with this world!!!!!! someone needs stop the madness!!!!

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how can her or new york get away with this
by: Anonymous

i dated a girl for a few mounths. we used condums every time, one night i had a few beers, i used one of hers it it was cut and i didnt see it, she comes to me says we are having a baby and what she did. she said she wanted a baby. now we live in pa, she was from new york, i filled paper work on her with pa court when she said she is taking baby when shes born and going to new york and i will never see the baby, shes 8 mouths along, the pa court had a cop bring paper work to her saying at this time if she gos to new york to have baby she will go to jail, shes been on weed with all this failed many drug tests, im a paid fireman/emt in pa she has a job that pays maybe $800. a mouth, i own my home shes moving all over town, she filled something in new york and they tell her pa cant do a dam thing and when baby is born dont go to pa to ny filled on me for child support and make where i cant see my kid, they said then pa can pond sand, why cant new york back the hell off i want my kid in my life

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The Law is Lost II
by: Anonymous

The Law In NYC is upto 21 years old I hate that!But; the next (EX) plan is when my socal Daugther turns 21 years old.The Ex will RUN to the Courts and TELL the Judge, that my socal Daugther is attending some fake school(With no proof what so ever) Just to push it upto 23 years old.Now wouldn't that be nice A man or even a father, sure love's to make the EX's life worthwhile Just for money.I've been paying childsupport since 1993 (she was born in 1992)-Plus Extra. and it's 2011.I Know she didn't ask to be born, Nor I was ask to pay childsupport It was by Force.Now, what is a good father? She has zero education just like her mother. Hates me for whatever reason? But; Life goes on. It will be the same routine it worked out good on the EX.The thing that bothers me is, How can a grown person Be on welfare and on section 8 - on the DL (With one child at that time) - with my socal own kid, for 16 1/2 years !!On the DL- Be married (still is) with Two more Kids, and on welfare and on section 8 (with her husband) Now is 18 1/2 years later and still on welfare and on section 8, But working off the books for 4 years now.Plus childsupport from me. I GET A RED FLAG ON Income TAX week,It doesn't make sense.

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The Law is Lost.
by: Anonymous

My Socal back stabbing Daugther, is 19 and a parent lives with HER boyfriend that she'll NEVER MARRY Just to help HER, MOTHER
collect,CHILDSUPPORT. That is married and on welfare and on section 8.That situation has to go on All because Collateral Damage,That's was done by the GOVERMENT THEY NEED TO WORK on the BOOKS!The Sickness of Peasants, Pay your Childsupport,I can't take care of your Kids and My Husband.Now If a CHILD or That PARENT broke the law before the AGE OF 21 of parenting their childrensIn NYC.Such as OVERSEEING on that CHILD, By Getting Married to their babydaddys ASAP.,Working on the Books, Graduating, and even Joining the US forces.Shouldn't get any SUPPORT, from Welfare, Section 8,SSI,Medicade nor from the Goverment.PAY YOUR TAXES!these sick peasants Are as ILLEGAL as anything else.IF I'M BREACKING THE LAW, BY HAVING ONE CHILD. I'M A CRIMINAL. That's the part that hurts me, and hell with any lawyer. I wasn't appointed with one in the beginning, after paying all of this money and just to pay extra. The Gov puts an innocent person in Jail or in Prison for a Crime that they NEVER had done nor DID, Just to see the OUTCOME of that Person? Now we all know, Is NOT a good OUTCOME. So, that's what the GOV is doing to US right now.MEN'S, WOMEN'S to all OF US Their USING and DOING the those Experiment/Snow Balling Samplimg on us The Same Way.LIKE We're CRIMINALS!It's not a crime to be a man, It's a crime to have a Child.Period,Even if that women tells "YOU" that your selfish, or that Monster-in-law "IS" asking and begging on her kness "FOR" a Grandchild.Just walk AWAY, you don't even have to explain your self.Just walk AWAY.It's all about Money and more Greed and Selfishness, Now your ball(s) is in their "COURTS"and their laughing behind your back Is ugly. In Reality, an a Adult is 18 years Old.They can DO what ever they Like or Want.
From Filming or making a Porn movie, Smoking MJ or Cig even Drinking a Beer.Robbing or Kill someone, Drive any types of Car's.
Work thats if thay want to, or Drop out from any School's? Have a child with any or many partner's,Gay etc. Do time in Jail or in Prison as an Adult. BUT CHILDSUPPORT IS UPTO 21 YEARS OLD, BECAUSE THEIR CONSIDERD AS AN INFANT IN THE COURTS OF NYC?. That's not Reality.

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NYS sucks
by: Anonymous

In NY state the calculation is 17% of combined parental gross income. My husband pays $14729 in child support each year or $283.26 each week for his 7 year old son. That is, in New York State, only 73% of what they claim he and his ex would spend on their son had they stayed married. Her 27% "contribution" is what they claim she pays out of pocket above and beyond what my husband pays or $5447.90 annually. Too bad my SS is always in clothes that are too small, socks with holes, dirty and smelly. But, it must be nice for her that she and her husband get to buy new cars every two years. Oh, and that newly remodeled kitchen, yup we paid for that too! The worst part is that we have a two year old daughter and a little boy on the way and the last time the ex went for an increase my husband mentioned this to the judge and was told that "in New York State first families come first, I won't take your current family into consideration at all." Needless to say the support went up $400 each month that day....lucky us....only 14 more years...shoot me now!

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feel unfair? screw the mother and daughter. tit for tat
by: FakeDodgeViperGuy

the mother condones pimping out her daughter to make money. it's better than prostitution because the sex only takes one time (pregnancy) and the returns are for 21 years. what an immense return on investment. if this were to ever happen to me, i would just leave the country. i would never live under an unfair system. life is too short to sit and cry. get up and go and turn the whole thing upside down, right in the mother and daughter's face.

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i wrote to congress
by: Anonymous

I wrote to congress and showed that their were many sites who could make them aware of the way the system is used by these gold diggers but i was ignored maybe if more people wrote everyday someone will eventually listen

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Ny State Sucks!!!1
by: Anonymous

You are so right.....NY Child support laws are the worst. I am sorry you have to go through that. I am goung through a similar situation in another state. Just keep your head up and hang in there. The Lord sits high and looks low, your ex- will have to deal with the consequences in one way shape or form. Just keep doing the right thing. You will be rewarded one day.

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by: robert

i hear u ny sucks my 21 wasnt even living with his mom or me i was paying for his dorm room and schooling

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We need to Write to Congress
by: Rjamison331@yahoo.com

I have seen or listen to so many cases, People need to stand together. Now is the time if we don't it's going to get worse, and times are hard.

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