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Not a "welfare" case


I posted the blog "IT'S TOO EASY FOR DEADBEAT FATHERS TO BEAT THE SYSTEM" and received some pretty rude comments attacking my character. Not all women who file for child support are poor, unemployed, uneducated women. I was not complaining, I'm simply giving an example of how frustrating and inefficient the child support cycle can be. Truth be told, I probably make more that the two miserable, immature people who left the nasty comments above so much more of MY tax dollars go to supporting welfare reciepents. I am a supervisor at one of the largest banks in the world and I currently pursuing my bachelors in edcucation and masters in education administration...I am FAR from a "welfare" case. In fact, I've NEVER received any government assistance and I never will. I filed child support because I believe my child deserves EVERY advantage, not just what I can provide. The system is broken and needs to be fixed to work more efficiently and consistently. We have to remember, the only person who suffers is the CHILD. A good mother does EVERYTHING and ANYTHING to make sure her child has the best. Judging by how offended those two people had gotten, they must be deadbeat dads. :-)

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May 02, 2009
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Go after it!
by: Anonymous

To the November poster. You do not need a bank account # in order for the state to lien a bank account. The State of Texas is tied into the financial banking institutions. They will put out an inquiry by social security #. Once accounts are located, they will put out a writ and attach a lien for everything in the account with the exception of 250.00. (personal, business, and joint accounts.) I believe there is a 24-hour window on the freeze. Also, all stocks and bonds can be liened. They will also lien personal (vehicles, boats..) and real property (commercial, residential, investment) The attorney general can put out an inquiry to determine property owned by the non-custodial via tax records, bank loans for mortgages and so forth. If you are aware of other states where property or accounts exist report it to CSE and request they put out an inquiry in a neighboring state. If a non-custodial parent has placed proeprties in the name of a new spouse...the burden of proof is up to the new spouse to prove by affivadavit that the property was owned prior to the marriage or was given through a probate. Check state laws.

Feb 08, 2009
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Reply to "not a welfare case."
by: Anonymous

RIGHT ON SISTER!!!

Jan 08, 2009
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Explain the expenses!
by: Anonymous

I agree that people should pay child support if in fact the kids are theirs. What's sad is there are many women out there who had affairs, got pregnant, and claim that their husband is the father. Even after discovering the husband is not the biological father, the state will still force him to pay child support for a kid that's not his. Where's the accountability on the part of the woman?

Most, if not all women will use the excuse "for the child" to gain a monetary incentive, and the Texas Attorney General is quick to act on their behalf. I have said this many times before; the AG has a vested interest in the case because they get funding for doing so.

For those of you who have been to court, you know that the custodial parent doesn't need representation. All she/he has to do is cry to the AG's office and then sit there as the state makes it's case against the non-custodial parent. For those of you naive enough to hire an attorney, don't think for a minute they will win or attempt to overturn the case. You will only be putting more money into the legal system.

On Jan 2, 2009, I went to court in Beeville, TX for a modification. Thinking that she would get a large increase, my ex showed up with a pityful look on her face. Like many of you money hungry custodial parents, she played the part so well. What the court doesn't know and will not allow as testimony is her behavior leading up to the divorce. She is not the victim!

All I asked the court to do was have her explain how she can spend $1700.00 a month on one child and I would agree to the increase. Of course, the AG stepped in and said "she don't have too". My argument is; don't use the child as an excuse to get more money when you can't even show how you need such an amount.

By the way, I'm not behind (nor have I ever been). It just that I make $$$,$$$.$$ and that bitch wants a part of it. So, is it really in the interest of my child, or my ex?

My advice to the non-custodial parents, DON'T EVER AGREE with the AG's office on anything. They will always go for as much as the law will allow and even more if you let them. LET THE JUDGE DECIDE!

Jan 07, 2009
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by: NOLA GURL

I agree with you it is to easy for them get out of their resposibility. I am a single parent of 2 wonderfull sons. I have not recieved child support from either of the dead beats. I do not receive any assistance from the state but from my understanding it would be easier to get the DA to pursue them aggressively if I were on assistance because the would go after them to get their (THE STATE) money back. I know how difficult it is to hold a houshold down without the assistance of the other parent. I'm going to give you the senario. Rent-$900 Car Note-$300 Day Care-$200 Electricity/Water/Gas-$250 Groceries$125 Gas in Car- $30 Car Insurance-$125. I make $10.35 an hour & work 40 hours a week..........you do the math. I is a shame that it takes the someone else to tell grown men to take care of their own bloodline.

Dec 28, 2008
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Greed
by: Wife to a Non-Custodial Parent

Your children might deserve it but it sounds to me like you are a angry ex and it's really coming down to spite and greed

Dec 03, 2008
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refer to BOO HOO
by: Frustrated Obligee

Boo Hoo, this is in reference to your comment, "You should just be happy you don't have to have anything to do with him". Perhaps as a Father/Mother you do not have anything to do with your children or prior spouse, but that is not the case for me. I have weekly interactions with my childs Father and believe in the legal system to make sure we BOTH abide by the rules. I believe in fairness, honesty and balance. I would LOVE to not have anything to do with the man again in exchange for him never having to pay child support again. Unfortunately or fortunately, this is not how the law works. Nor would it be in my daughters best interest to not have her Father in her life. If it was about settleing a score and looking at my own needs and desires first, I would do all I could to encourage my childs Father to sign off on all legal and parental rights, including child support, in order to never look, speak or socialize with him again.

Dec 02, 2008
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IT'S NOT A STATE LAW
by: Anonymous

It is NOT a State Law. It is a FEDERAL law. So, be even that much more careful. Research facts. It was enacted to help support a minor child. Hence the name "child support". They can not regulate how a parent uses the support monies. For those that are paying their child support on a regular basis, kuddos!!!!! x 10.

For those parents abusing it, you are sick, and using a child as your "cause".

If things are really bad, the non-custodial can take the custodial back to court to wind custody and SUPPORT as well.

For those paying 900+, you can have it adjusted if there is a drop in your income (i think it has to be a certain amount depending on where you live).

Dec 02, 2008
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Immaturity
by: Anonymous

If you get your ex-boyfriend/husband to court for non payment, you can not just have him sign over rights. Texas law mandates that an attorney be appointed by the state to the child (not you nor the father). If the father agrees to sign over rights, that is fine. Other wise, he basically has to be found unfit to have rights taken away. Also, contrary to popular belief, that does not mean that child support stops. That is a seperate cause. Is this what you want your child remembering (you being immature also).

As for the men that decide not to pay (or women too)... they will when they are drawing Social security. The government will garnish tax returns, lottery winnings, Welfare checks, Social Security or disability. They may not be able to sell their car, house or any other property. If they sell it, the government can put a lein on it so that the money goes toward child support first before they get their cut.

A lot of times the person that is pursuing the child support is so money hungry that it is almost impossible for the non-custodial to pay it. So, be careful. You also probably had the unprotected sex, drunk love, immature teen love, etc that created that child. You can hurt more than you know.

After 10 years of fighting my ex, he is now having to work a "real" job instead of roofing on the side for money. He had accumulated so much (over $35K in back support), that he now can't sell his car, they are garnishing his checks, plus extra arrears amounts, intercepting his federal returns, and was told that if he retires at age 65 (he is 38), he will still be having child support garnished out. Also, he just recently messed up a disk in his back and wanted to file for disability. He decided not to due to the fact that it would go to child support till it was paid off - then he would get what was left.

Note - it always comes around. Act mature!!!

Nov 30, 2008
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Take Resposibility!!!
by: Anonymous

I feel for you Mother's I was getting regular child support for 6 months then that all stopped he has been making payments of only 1.00 dollar a month and his employer doesn't garnish his wages. I am 23 and have 3 children I work full time as an office manager of a motor sports company and I go to school full time. And I thank god I met a nice man willing to accept me and my children he is in the military and a Doctor so yeah I'm set but that doesn't mean my ex shouldn't pay nothing. He has no bills he lives with his mom has no car but he does have his CDL so he makes about 800.00 a week with every penny going to him. Your damn right I'm going to hire a lot of attorneys to go after him, its not the fact I need the money but that when he decided to have unprotected sex and produced a child he should be responsible for his choices he made cause god knows that i am or he can simply sign over his rights which he won't do even though he hasn't seen his kids in 1 1/2 years. Mainly because he doesn't have my number nor does he know where I live so when I do call him private to discuss the children's visitations he threatens to make a police report on me for harassment so I no longer call because I don't need that on my record cause it is squeaky clean unlike his. So when we go to court I will get the money my kids deserve or he will sign over his right I can guarantee that.

Nov 29, 2008
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CS not in the best interest of the child!
by: Frustrated in Amarillo

Every day I wake up I get some satisfaction that I pay child support for my Four children( was married). It breaks my heart when I pick my kids up and their clothes dont fit and they look like trash. I cried when my son called me one night and said he was hungry and because he is 500 miles away I could do nothing that night. My children constantly complain that their mother wont spend the money on them now that they are old enough. She even slapped my daughter when she asked her how come she never has any money. My ex is an RN and I am an LVN. She had CPS called on her once. My daughter calls me for 5 dollars to go to a movie with her frineds. She wont even ask her mother any more because it is to emotionally hard on her. I have been paying for 8 years month after month. I pay over 900 a month in support and insurance. Some days I'm hurtin for money but I keep on. I'm getting older and I cant keep working two jobs just to pay regular utilities. A friend of mine who is 40+ years said no matter what pay your support and see them cause it will pay off. To sum it up the system is not in the best interst of the children or the parents. Why do they charge so high interest if you miss a payment, do the children get the interst also. Why would you take a man to jail, take his license for not paying and then fine him more money. Can he work in Jail or without a license. I found out that I over paid 2000 dollars and it had been sitting there for years, why did they not send it back to me it took me jumping through hoops to get them to move. If its in the best interest of the children why do they let her move hundreds of miles away. Why do I have to get a lawyer to contest any discrepancies and all she has to do is make a call.

Nov 17, 2008
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BOO HOO
by: Anonymous

Women just love sucking men dry don't they? And under the guise of "Oh, I just want the BEST for my child!" If you are making a great living anyway why bother to go after the guy? You should just be happy you don't have to have anything to do with him but obviously you have some kind of score to settle.

Nov 16, 2008
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Take Action
by: Frustrated Obligee

For those that have allowed the system to make you feel helpless,write to every state rep. and congressman/woman in your state (include the President),IF the Obligor has been allowed to get away with breaking the Child Support Order. Provide ONLY FACTs and try to keep your emmotions in check. (A picture of your child will make it more personal)
I have done this and not only is the Child Support Enforcement Team taking the proper steps, but the local office was forced to reorganize the infrastructure. There are hundreds of cases per CSW, they only take action on the ones that they have to. That means the one that makes the most noise. It gets the oil, right?
Learn your state laws. Never ask for more than what is your CHILDS right.

Nov 13, 2008
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Commmet to Not a "Welfare" case
by: Anonymous

I am a single parent of a child whose father hase been beating the system for 5 years. He is a truck driver and has his CDL license so that crap about the NCP will have license suspended if they are behind isnt true. In 5 years I have gotten $29!!!! Not only that my NCP has a child in the same state I live in and that childs mother receives money "if" he does work and receives his income tax "if" he does file. I have told this to my case worker and all she say's everything is on case by case situation!!! My dead beat NCP parent also has bank accounts and my case worker told me in order to garnish his acct I need the acct number..how am I supposed to get that?!?! So the child support system does nothing and he(NCP) continues to live. I am college graduate and make more than enough to care for my child, but I think BOTH parents should contribute. I dont think the child support laws are strict enough, they always make "claims" of what they will do if NCP parents are in default and those are all LIES!!!!

Nov 11, 2008
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NOT WORTH IT
by: Anonymous

I understand the concept of wanting the best advantages for our children. I think all Mothers want that! I am a Mother of three and I don't get a dime of child support and haven't in 8 years. I work for GM (which now....with the economy who knows how long I'll be employed). I grew up without a father as well and know first hand how damaging that is to a child. I'm not saying that I don't think my ex-husband should be responsible for paying child support...I DO!! I do think he should be able to live as well. He has to be able to pay rent,have a car(put gas in the vehicle), buy groceries, pay utilities etc... If he is unable to do those simple things how can he ever be there for my chilren and be a decent Father. I think seeing my chilren happy and well adjusted with two parents that put aside their differences far out weigh any child support I could be getting. It's not a choice all woman(or men)could make, but I do what I can for my kids with or without him and I always will! It's not worth the stress and the fighting to me.
As far as being a welfare case I think that is ignorance talking. I think it's meant for the woman(or men) whom choose to NOT work and try to live off whatever money they do get as child support. Parents who contribute NOTHING to finacially support their children. Ones who keep taking the other parent back to court for more money because they dont want to get a J O B. As far as I remember....Texas law states that both parents have to be EQUALLY responsible for their children, NOT JUST ONE. You on the other hand have a good job and take care of your children there is a huge difference.

Nov 04, 2008
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I totally AGREE
by: Anonymous

I agree with you on this issue. I am in another state and my daughters father is in ALabama, he purposely declines to pay his measely 187.89 a month by illegally forging a boss's signature on the paperwork. This is a dad who is not one and has not seen or tied to see his daughter in over 6 years. I work at a very high end law firm and am married, I have high standards and my ex and daughters father is over 10,000.00 behind on his child support and I want to know why the State of Alabama does not enforce the child support issues. He should not have a drivers license right now but enjoys all his single not parenting advantages.

Nov 03, 2008
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Deadbeat Obligor working the
by: Frustrated Obligee

I would like to commend you on stepping up on this subject. I,myself, am not a welfare case or close to being proverty.

The Fahter of my daughter works in Aspen Colorado as a Chef at a "fine" resturant. He refuses to turn in the requested documentation that the enforcement team sends out to modify the child support. This is the third time he has done this and the "E-Team" is allowing a hand written statement of wages at $8 dollars an hour from a previous year to determine his child support. I have challenged this modification on grouds that the Obligor is evading an official request of proper documentation, yet he is still,as of this date, being allowed to get away with this.

I am in search for the legal ramifications of this for both the Obligor and the Enforcement Case workers that are allowing this to happen.

I am an extremely hard working Mother that believes my Daughter has a right to her Fathers support in ALL areas

Nov 02, 2008
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Child Support is a STATE Law
by: Ian Kull

Child support is NOT a federal law. The United States Congress did not enact it. The President signed no Bill.

Nov 02, 2008
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Response to "Why Is It So...."
by: Ian Kull

I do not feel that I am not missing any point. What point is it that you feel I'm missing?

I have never said that anyone was being malicious or seeking revenge. I have not even intimated as much. I have never made any comment, one way or the other, about the child being born out of wedlock.

Perhaps the miscommunication here is the definition of the word "support?" Why on Earth should a parent who pays for 100% of the child's needs for 47% of the year (under Texas' current standard visitation schedule and child support laws) be expected to pay another 20%, minimum, of his or her income ON TOP OF THAT the remainder of the year? With the logic being used here, the custodial parent should be paying the non-custodial parent 20% of his or her income during the 47% of the year that the non-custodial parent has the child (assuming only one child).

The question that people should be asking is why is it right that one parent be responsible for 100% of the child's support for 47% of the year, while the other parent is only responsible for partial support for 53% of the year?

Nov 02, 2008
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Child Support is a LAW, which means it had to passed through Congress and was approved by a president. Those who feel that parents should not be able to exercise thier right to file for child should stop blogging on a CHILD SUPPORT SITE and should start writing to thier local congress representative. This site is intended for people to come together and share experiences and offer positive advice, not to belittle each one another.

Nov 02, 2008
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why is it so horrible to sue for child support?
by: Anonymous

Ian is missing the point. Most women dont file child support to be malicious or seek revenge on the father...it's to help contribute to the well-being of the child. So are you implying that it is okay for a parent to not support thier child, financially or medically? Would you rather a mother pursue the biological father for support, or would you rather her apply for welfare and take it out of your taxes? why assume that just because a mother is seeking child support, the child was born out of wedlock? child support is established during the proceedings of a divorce as well.

Nov 01, 2008
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I'm curious...
by: Ian Kull

I'm curious, does your ex visit the children? Does he feed them and provide a place for them to live when they are with him? Does he maintain a vehicle to transport the children? If he does any or all these things, is he not supporting his children?

If he truly is not supporting his children within his ability for a period of one year then you can seek to have his parental rights terminated under section 161.001(1)(F) of the Texas Family Code if you live in Texas.

Nov 01, 2008
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I Agree that people get off too easy.
by: Anonymous

I went through a divorce and that is where my ex was ordered to pay support for his 2 children that we had together. He got the order and he did everything he could to get fired. He got fired and for 2 years avoided the order. I went to child support enforcement and they tracked him down to start support, he has yet to pay anything and we are going back to court yet again because he feels his payments are too high. HE HASN't PAID ANYTHING to know they are too high.

I am not saying that it's just men. I know that there are women out there that avoid payments as well. I think it's not fair that someone can HELP make the child but he or she can just walk away from the financial aspect of the child. The person avoiding the payment gets off free and clear. I have better things to do with my money than track someone down to get a payment. Why can't there be some rule that if a payment isn't made for a year or even two that the person lose their parental rights.

In regards to the comment on "you laid down and spread your legs to make a child, so quit complaining and take care of your kid", I think you need reminding that it takes two to make a child. If on person is to blame for a child being brought into the world then you must blame the other for helping. Last time I checked immaculate conception is something that only took place in the bible.

Oct 31, 2008
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DEAD BEAT MOM!
by: Anonymous

If you are so self- sufficient, why are you trying to get a man arrested for not paying you, when you decided to lay down, open your legs, and let him come in you! Take responsiblity for your own actions! I am a MOTHER of two, and women like you make me sick!

Oct 30, 2008
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Less Ranting, More Action
by: Ian Kull

I am not sure that you felt compelled to post the same libelous slurs and misconceived opinions in two separate places, but I feel compelled to address them both.

Let's start by addressing the inconsistencies in what you have said shall we?

First you say this:
"I had to file a formal complaint with the ombudsman department at my local child support office."

Then you try to convince us of:
"In fact, I've NEVER received any government assistance and I never will."

How is asking your local child support office to pursue the father NOT receiving government assistance?

Now, as for your erroneous attack on me. What EXACTLY about my response to your rant makes you think that I am a "dead beat dad"? Is it not possible that the male population is finally fed up with females demanding equal rights, but also getting the lion's share of everything? Or is it possibly that I offered you a solution to a problem that you made public and required a bit of effort on your part. This solution would actually solve your problem and not allow you to complain any more? Seriously, what exactly was it that I said?

Just because I do not agree with your opinion, and expressed my own, does not make me a "dead beat dad." It makes me human.

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