TEXAS CHILD SUPPORT SYSTEM IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND BIAS

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TEXAS CHILD SUPPORT SYSTEM IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND BIAS

by BOYD
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It is my belief that The Texas Child Support System is unconstitutional and bias towards males and non-custodial parents in many cases. Texas has the worse child support system in the nation in my eyes. The state of Texas only cares about Texas's interest in generating state and federal funds and not the children's in the end. I believe that if two individuals have children; they both should be responsible for the children 50 / 50 financially and emotionally. If the custodial parent cannot support the children on their own pay, and the non-custodial parent can, it should be considered with placement of the children. I believe that if child support payments could be taxed by the federal government as a deduction for non-custodial parents, perhaps there would be less problems for everyone importantly involved (the parents and the children).It is a social and more common belief that females are better nurturers for children than males. Something needs to happen and happen soon. The non-custodial parent is the one who is left as victim.

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Dec 29, 2009
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We ALL get the bad end of the deal...
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I totally agree with you. I am the custodial parent who gets up every morning goes my tired self to work, trying to keep my bills on and my two kids fed. First was told by Attorneys Office that the little 2 hundred and something a month I get for these two is what it is. My x is suppose to help with medical bills, but when son was running fever over at father's home during weekend visitation, he brought him to me said he had no money, I was stuck paying the clinic bill and for all the medication. X says, I have no money, but yet little does Attorney know he and new wife are remodeling their kitchen. lol Those people have it so bad, I also got told Attorney General can't enforce a lot of other things to help me out, won't say what they are, they could sadly be used to hurt some other person on here trying to get some monetary help for medical bills. I had to go get on chips, they only pay so much, my son needs dental surgery. My x also was getting credited for daughter living with him, she had moved out and he never called and told them, so I did! Yah, I get told that since it is not a hundred dollars difference that they can not help me, honestly, if it was just $50. difference every little bit helps, esp. when I am having to buy a $80. bottle of tamiflu. But yah, they weren't going to do anything different or anything to help me. So they can't help me with anything I have went to them about, so who are they helping? Not I the custodial mother who works and does the best she can to provide for two small children. So, you people on here, we can banter back and forth about who gets screwed over the most, guess it depends on who you ask. The Attorney General and their rules and guidelines, I guess we all need to know. For those self employeed father's out there who lie about what they actually make opposed to what they say they make, to think they are hurting their x wives really are hurting their children. I don't need dental surgery. In my world, I want my kids to have it better than myself, it appears that I share that thought alone when it comes to their father.

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Dec 29, 2009
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Re: What a Joke I totally agree with you. I am the custodial parent who gets up every morning goes my tired self to work, trying to keep my bills on and my two kids fed. First was told by Attorneys Office that the little 2 hundred and something a month I get for these two is what it is. My x is suppose to help with medical bills, but when son was running fever over at father's home during weekend visitation, he brought him to me said he had no money, I was stuck paying the clinic bill and for all the medication. X says, I have no money, but yet little does Attorney know he and new wife are remodeling their kitchen. lol Those people have it so bad, I also got told Attorney General can't enforce a lot of other things to help me out, won't say what they are, they could sadly be used to hurt some other person on here trying to get some monetary help for medical bills. I had to go get on chips, they only pay so much, my son needs dental surgery. My x also was getting credited for daughter living with him, she had moved out and he never called and told them, so I did! Yah, I get told that since it is not a hundred dollars difference that they can not help me, honestly, if it was just $50. difference every little bit helps, esp. when I am having to buy a $80. bottle of tamiflu. But yah, they weren't going to do anything different or anything to help me. So they can't help me with anything I have went to them about, so who are they helping? Not I the custodial mother who works and does the best she can to provide for two small children. So, you people on here, we can banter back and forth about who gets screwed over the most, guess it depends on who you ask. The Attorney General and their rules and guidelines, I guess we all need to know. For those self employeed father's out there who lie about what they actually make opposed to what they say they make, to think they are hurting their x wives really are hurting their children. I don't need dental surgery. In my world, I want my kids to have it better than myself, it appears that I share that thought alone when it comes to their father.

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May 12, 2009
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Chid Supports limits good parenting
by: Anonymous

child supports is a for lazy people that don't want to provide for thier children and have someone they slept with take care of all the expenses of the child while they collect. It is designed for a person to have a baby and be able to use that child for financial gain. It dosen't support the traditonal way of having children. If two cosenting adults engage in making a child, it should be soley up to them on raising that child. If law enforcement is needed, it should only be if both parents abandon the child and both should be held accountable.This would decline a lot of young mothers and fathers abandoning thier children. If raising a child was only financial, then it would be a lot of neglect of the children, instead of raising the child to be a pillar in the community. In this day and age, it remind me of the sixties on how the parents did a lot of sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll, but less politicaly fighting for thier rights against the people that is taking thier money and helping families suffer more instead of gain. I know this little girl, that is currently living with her mother that is strung out on crack, but the father is church going citizen that got caught up behind his ex and now he is facing jail time while this little girl is forced to stay with this so called custodial mother that doesn't work. I know nothing is perfect,but when you have to many cracks in the floor, you might lose your entire floor. If children are meal tickets for some people,then child birthing should be a career,instead of private affair. the attorney gernal are the pimps of getting money for custodial parents that want to gain off someone else hard work. This is the same way america was built by the work of others hardwork, while other watched. If our children are raised by these type of parents, we going to lose our hard working people to lazy self centered and immature people that feel that it is okay to live off of someone else's income.

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May 12, 2009
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child supports is a for lazy people that don't want to provide for thier children and have someone they slept with take care of all the expenses of the child while they collect. It is designed for a person to have a baby and be able to use that child for financial gain. It dosen't support the traditonal way of having children. If two cosenting adults engage in making a child, it should be soley up to them on raising that child. If law enforcement is needed, it should only be if both parents abandon the child and both should be held accountable.This would decline a lot of young mothers and fathers abandoning thier children. If raising a child was only financial, then it would be a lot of neglect of the children, instead of raising the child to be a pillar in the community. In this day and age, it remind me of the sixties on how the parents did a lot of sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll, but less politicaly fighting for thier rights against the people that is taking thier money and helping families suffer more instead of gain. I know this little girl, that is currently living with her mother that is strung out on crack, but the father is church going citizen that got caught up behind his ex and now he is facing jail time while this little girl is forced to stay with this so called custodial mother that doesn't work. I know nothing is perfect,but when you have to many cracks in the floor, you might lose your entire floor. If children are meal tickets for some people,then child birthing should be a career,instead of private affair. the attorney gernal are the pimps of getting money for custodial parents that want to gain off someone else hard work. This is the same way america was built by the work of others hardwork, while other watched. If our children are raised by these type of parents, we going to lose our hard working people to lazy self centered and immature people that feel that it is okay to live off of someone else's income.

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Apr 22, 2009
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you have got to be kidding
by: dad of two beautiful daughters

it isn't who makes the most money gets the children, my ex-wife walked out on our young daugthers age 18 mos an 6 years old to be with another man, an they are on drugs she makes more than i do, by far, but is not getting my daughters, NOT going to happen, it's all about the childrens best interest not who makes the most money, life is all about our children we made them out of love, then when something happens an you break up we tend to use our loving children as weapons to hurt the other person, that isn't good for the children, now my youngest doesn't know her mother, an she wasn't a mother she only went to work an sleep all day, her boyfriend worked with her so she was up an off to work without doing anything a mother would do, she is all about her self, wouldn't even buy her daughter a weather coat when we had to move out of texas to noth carolina an it was 20 degrees she stated i have to save my money so i can get a place to live, well she got her a place for him an her she along with him make over 3200.00 a month an she got 7600.00 in tax money back an she sent the girls 3000.00 to get us a place to live an not a dime since, well i hope anyone who knows melissa lea white (kingsland Tx ) will let her know, they now know what type of person she is, i'm told she is on meth an the boyfriend is known to law enforcement as a drug user, an on probation for drugs well anyway

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Apr 22, 2009
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Submitted by: dad of two beautiful daughters

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it isn't who makes the most money gets the children, my ex-wife walked out on our young daugthers age 18 mos an 6 years old to be with another man, an they are on drugs she makes more than i do, by far, but is not getting my daughters, NOT going to happen, it's all about the childrens best interest not who makes the most money, life is all about our children we made them out of love, then when something happens an you break up we tend to use our loving children as weapons to hurt the other person, that isn't good for the children, now my youngest doesn't know her mother, an she wasn't a mother she only went to work an sleep all day, her boyfriend worked with her so she was up an off to work without doing anything a mother would do, she is all about her self, wouldn't even buy her daughter a weather coat when we had to move out of texas to noth carolina an it was 20 degrees she stated i have to save my money so i can get a place to live, well she got her a place for him an her she along with him make over 3200.00 a month an she got 7600.00 in tax money back an she sent the girls 3000.00 to get us a place to live an not a dime since, well i hope anyone who knows melissa lea white (kingsland Tx ) will let her know, they now know what type of person she is, i'm told she is on meth an the boyfriend is known to law enforcement as a drug user, an on probation for drugs well anyway

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Dec 03, 2008
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O COME ON ! WAKE UP!
by: Anonymous

THE TEXAS CHILD SUPPORT SYSTEM VERY BIAS! I'm a stepmother of 3 children, we pay out $1175.00 for childsupport to the mothers. We also go above and beyond to make sure that the Kids have everything they want and need such as school clothes ,guitar lessons, dance lessons etc. While the MOTHERS SIT BACK AND COLLECT A CHECK with no job. All you people that comment being custodial parents yes I agree with you as far as caring for the child. But a majority of the custodial parents out there LIVE OFF THE SYSTEM and don't work. While US as Non-Custodial Parents get treated like a peice of Crap when we have meetings at the AG OFFICE. They make US that Do OUR PART ABOVE AND BEYOND, feel like that we are not doing good enough. AND I"M TIRED OF IT!!!! The mothers that are not working an collecting a check, pawn their Children off on other family members, so they can go out and PARTY WITH THEIR CHILD SUPPORT CHECK and find their next VICTIM! THE system should be 50/50 BECAUSE IT TAKES TWO TO TANGO! SO All YOU UNEMPLOYED MOTHERS COLLECTING A CHECK GET OFF YOU BUTT AND GET A JOB!!!!!!!!!

Dec 03, 2008
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IF THE SHOE FITS; WEAR IT
by: Anonymous

THIS IS MY COMMENT TO THE ARTICLE "GIVE ME A BREAK". WE DON'T BASH CUSTODIAL PARENTS. WE DO HAVE ISSUES WITH THE ONES WHO DON'T WORK AND USE CHILD SUPPORT FOR THEIR MAIN SOURCE OF INCOME INSTEAD OF USING IT AS ORDERED FOR THE CHILDREN. GOOD FOR YOU TAKING CARE OF YOUR CHILDREN. BUT WHETHER IT IT BE CUSTODIAL OR NON-CUSTODIAL PARENTS; WHEN ORDERED TO TAKE CARE OF THE CHILD(REN).THE MONEY SHOULD BE USED ON THE CHILD(REN) NEEDS AND NOT OTHER PARTY.THE ONE'S WHO DON'T WORK, DRAW GOVERMENT HELP! GET OFF YOUR BUTT AND TAKE CARE OF YOUR RESPOSIBILITIES!!!!!!

Nov 24, 2008
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The system is BIASED
by: Anonymous

Let me help Boyd on his complaint of the system being biased. First off, the agency only exists to keep custodial parents from seeking welfare. So, the AG's office goes directly after the non-custodial parent to seek payment. Personally, I don't have a problem with paying child support. I do have a problem with the treatment all of us (non-custodial parents) receive when dealing with this agency. Because of those turds out there who do everything they can to avoid paying their fair share, the good guys get treated like deadbeats.

The fact of the matter is that a custodial parent can go to the AG's office to get support and health care for the kids, but the non-custodial doesn't see this agency for their desires. Is it fair that the AG's office doesn't enforce visitation?

What really gets me is that this agency "uses" the interests of the child to get money, but refuses to validate how the money is actually spent. In the Texas Family Law, it states "it's presumed the money will be used in the interests on the child". For those parents receiving minimal child support, I would agree with that statement. However, what about situations (such as mine) where my ex may get $1400.00 a month for one child based on my income? She also gets $500.00 a month because we adopted my daughter. Now, there's NOT ONE PERSON who could convince me that my child needs $1900.00 a month to see to her needs. After asking the AG's office what happens to the rest of the money when the needs are being met at a lessor level, I was told "it's none of my business".

So, is the system fair? Hell no! Every situation should be looked at differently versus "an across the board" mentality. To answer the other comments about the time it takes to care for a child that a non-custodial parent isn't bound to: I would say custodial parents should not get paid to babysit their own kids. I'm sure there are many dads out there who would take on this important role, but the state will always award the kids to the mother unless she doesn't want to take care of them, or is deemed an unfit mother.

For those of you who think the AG's office is fair and equitable, please explain what services they provide for the non-custodial parent.

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Nov 24, 2008
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Let me help Boyd on his complaint of the system being biased. First off, the agency only exists to keep custodial parents from seeking welfare. So, the AG's office goes directly after the non-custodial parent to seek payment. Personally, I don't have a problem with paying child support. I do have a problem with the treatment all of us (non-custodial parents) receive when dealing with this agency. Because of those turds out there who do everything they can to avoid paying their fair share, the good guys get treated like deadbeats. The fact of the matter is that a custodial parent can go to the AG's office to get support and health care for the kids, but the non-custodial doesn't see this agency for their desires. Is it fair that the AG's office doesn't enforce visitation? What really gets me is that this agency "uses" the interests of the child to get money, but refuses to validate how the money is actually spent. In the Texas Family Law, it states "it's presumed the money will be used in the interests on the child". For those parents receiving minimal child support, I would agree with that statement. However, what about situations (such as mine) where my ex may get $1400.00 a month for one child based on my income? She also gets $500.00 a month because we adopted my daughter. Now, there's NOT ONE PERSON who could convince me that my child needs $1900.00 a month to see to her needs. After asking the AG's office what happens to the rest of the money when the needs are being met at a lessor level, I was told "it's none of my business". So, is the system fair? Hell no! Every situation should be looked at differently versus "an across the board" mentality. To answer the other comments about the time it takes to care for a child that a non-custodial parent isn't bound to: I would say custodial parents should not get paid to babysit their own kids. I'm sure there are many dads out there who would take on this important role, but the state will always award the kids to the mother unless she doesn't want to take care of them, or is deemed an unfit mother. For those of you who think the AG's office is fair and equitable, please explain what services they provide for the non-custodial parent.

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Sep 22, 2008
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GIVE ME A BREAK
by: Anonymous

REALLY???? How about the custodial parents who do have jobs and have to bust their ass because they never receive a DIME to help take care of their kids? My husband and I recently got custody of my husband's son. He never MISSED a dime of child support in the 13 years that his ex-wife had custody of their son. Where is her responsbility now? She has no job, married a man that receives a paycheck so she doesn't have to work, does not carry him on insurance or does not contribute money for his insurance and does NOT offer ANY help AT ALL but wants us TO DRIVE him to her house to spend time with her because she CAN NOT AFFORD the gas??? COME ON.....You think the non-custodial parent has it so bad???? Why don't you REALLY sit down and figure out how much it costs to raise a child monthly, much less over the next 18 years. Do you truly put in the same time/sweat/tears as a custodial parent? My ex-husband pays $1000 a month and thinks he is a great dad however sees my daughter once a year....what a GREAT DAD!! You bitch about paying money every month? How many times have you stayed up with a child throwing up all night or with diarrhea, given up a Friday night because you didn't have or couldn't afford a babysitter, stayed up helping with homework, cheering on or punishing your kid, getting confused between being a maid/chauffuer/warden to being a parent? There are a lot of men/women out there that love their children with all of their hearts but would NEVER be able to truly raise a child. However, it is easier to grip about the system but could you REALLY step up to the plate and give up your life/money/freedom to be parent? That is the easiet question in the world to me but for the ones that grip about PAYING too much money or DO NOT pay at all....have no idea what parenting really means. When your child turns 18....are you going to help pay for college and/or a wedding or are you done because you did your 18 years?? Yeah, amazing isn't it....being a parent doesn't stop at 18!

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Sep 22, 2008
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REALLY???? How about the custodial parents who do have jobs and have to bust their ass because they never receive a DIME to help take care of their kids? My husband and I recently got custody of my husband's son. He never MISSED a dime of child support in the 13 years that his ex-wife had custody of their son. Where is her responsbility now? She has no job, married a man that receives a paycheck so she doesn't have to work, does not carry him on insurance or does not contribute money for his insurance and does NOT offer ANY help AT ALL but wants us TO DRIVE him to her house to spend time with her because she CAN NOT AFFORD the gas??? COME ON.....You think the non-custodial parent has it so bad???? Why don't you REALLY sit down and figure out how much it costs to raise a child monthly, much less over the next 18 years. Do you truly put in the same time/sweat/tears as a custodial parent? My ex-husband pays $1000 a month and thinks he is a great dad however sees my daughter once a year....what a GREAT DAD!! You bitch about paying money every month? How many times have you stayed up with a child throwing up all night or with diarrhea, given up a Friday night because you didn't have or couldn't afford a babysitter, stayed up helping with homework, cheering on or punishing your kid, getting confused between being a maid/chauffuer/warden to being a parent? There are a lot of men/women out there that love their children with all of their hearts but would NEVER be able to truly raise a child. However, it is easier to grip about the system but could you REALLY step up to the plate and give up your life/money/freedom to be parent? That is the easiet question in the world to me but for the ones that grip about PAYING too much money or DO NOT pay at all....have no idea what parenting really means. When your child turns 18....are you going to help pay for college and/or a wedding or are you done because you did your 18 years?? Yeah, amazing isn't it....being a parent doesn't stop at 18!

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Sep 12, 2008
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In reference to Boyd's comment
by: Anonymous

Well Boyd, some I agree with some I don't. 50/50 split for the children's needs okay that's cool but in most cases it doesn't work out that way. It usually ends up being put upon the custodial parent for everything. I myself am remarried and my husband has taken over all obligations necessary for my daughter like medical benefits and food and shelter and clothing and etc.................. Due to the fact that my daughter's biodad refuses to take responsibility for his actions and issues. He keeps low paying jobs where I get like 2 & 4 dollar checks if i get anything and then most of the time I don't get anything. My big problem with your comment though was that you said that amount of money made in a household should be considered when placing the child with a custodial parent and I don't believe that. If my daughter had to live with her father she'd never have a home because he moves around every 2-3 months at will and lives with other people even when he has money and he doesn't have a vehicle or a driver's license and he complains about having to ride the bus. He is also an abusive person physically. And he is under the impression that his desires should come first (he wnts to be a wrestler). I understand down on your luck and benefit of the doubt but now for 5 years my daughter's biodad has been avoiding at all costs getting a real job making at least minimum wage. He takes jobs where he can leave early and only makes tips and $2.00 per hr. He has the ability to work but doesn't want to. Going to court and listening to all of the excuses these people give is just disheartening. Reason being is that most of these people could've controlled the debt they get themselves into by keeping a job and not job hopping like alot of them do. You are right though. TX has some of the worst child support laws in existance but they don't work for the benefit of getting the children they work for the benefit of the deadbeats. And I am not going to label deadbeats with one gender because it's not just men, it's women to. All parents should be held accountable for their actions whether they be custidoal or non custodial, men or women, but if you are ordered to pay child support you owe it to those children not just to make an emotional contribution to their life but to assist the custodial parent in monetary ways just so the kids have everything they need.

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Sep 12, 2008
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Well Boyd, some I agree with some I don't. 50/50 split for the children's needs okay that's cool but in most cases it doesn't work out that way. It usually ends up being put upon the custodial parent for everything. I myself am remarried and my husband has taken over all obligations necessary for my daughter like medical benefits and food and shelter and clothing and etc.................. Due to the fact that my daughter's biodad refuses to take responsibility for his actions and issues. He keeps low paying jobs where I get like 2 & 4 dollar checks if i get anything and then most of the time I don't get anything. My big problem with your comment though was that you said that amount of money made in a household should be considered when placing the child with a custodial parent and I don't believe that. If my daughter had to live with her father she'd never have a home because he moves around every 2-3 months at will and lives with other people even when he has money and he doesn't have a vehicle or a driver's license and he complains about having to ride the bus. He is also an abusive person physically. And he is under the impression that his desires should come first (he wnts to be a wrestler). I understand down on your luck and benefit of the doubt but now for 5 years my daughter's biodad has been avoiding at all costs getting a real job making at least minimum wage. He takes jobs where he can leave early and only makes tips and $2.00 per hr. He has the ability to work but doesn't want to. Going to court and listening to all of the excuses these people give is just disheartening. Reason being is that most of these people could've controlled the debt they get themselves into by keeping a job and not job hopping like alot of them do. You are right though. TX has some of the worst child support laws in existance but they don't work for the benefit of getting the children they work for the benefit of the deadbeats. And I am not going to label deadbeats with one gender because it's not just men, it's women to. All parents should be held accountable for their actions whether they be custidoal or non custodial, men or women, but if you are ordered to pay child support you owe it to those children not just to make an emotional contribution to their life but to assist the custodial parent in monetary ways just so the kids have everything they need.

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Sep 11, 2008
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Non-Custodial vs. Custodial
by: Fed up Custodial Parent

Texas Child Support system would need to intervene if the two parents take care of their responsiblity. Non-custodial parents should be willing to take on their responsiblity as a parent leaving the government out of the situation. Then, you have complainers who think the system is "bias" well, what about the custodial parent (male or female) left to take on these responsibilities alone with little or no support. Kids needs are plenty - food, shelter, clothes, school and extracurricular needs - think about it!

Sep 01, 2008
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What a laugh
by: Anonymous

I totally agree with you requarding the fact the attorney generals office is a joke. But I totally disagree that the non custodial parents are victoms of the attorney generals office. I feel that the victoms are the custodial parents who work and take care of thier children without government aid. In my case my x pays 154.00 a month for two children or should I say he is suppose to lol. 154.00 a month isnt even 1/2 of the cost it takes to raise two boys. He demands every single right to his children to the point he tries to get them on my extended visitation. He has never once paid a medical bill or even taken them to a doctor when they are ill, makes them wait to come home so I can take them. The attorney generals office ordered him 12 years probation, of which he has not complied with. I think the thing is that in general the attorney generals office is doing nothing for either side and that they arent picking on the males, they just plain are collecting a salary for doing nothing for either side.

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